Getting Kicked As Leader - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

ichigo_panty · Aug 08, 2007, 09:40 AM // 09:40

Not unless you have his/her address,phone number, picture. You can hunt him/her down if something happen.

spellsword · Aug 11, 2007, 09:42 AM // 09:42

If someone makes a guild, they can run it however they want. If they want to leave for two months, its their right to do so. If players are bothered by an inactive leader, they can leave. Taking someone???s guild away is wrong, they paid for it, so it should be theirs no matter what.

troll · Aug 15, 2007, 08:27 AM // 08:27

When I first started GW I joined a guild, but when I couldn't get out of pre-searing I quit for a while. When I came back I was the leader of a guild with a hall and everything (back then sigils cost like 60-70k). That was pretty cool I thought.

Traveller · Aug 15, 2007, 12:32 PM // 12:32

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Originally Posted by spellsword

If someone makes a guild, they can run it however they want. If they want to leave for two months, its their right to do so. If players are bothered by an inactive leader, they can leave. Taking someone’s guild away is wrong, they paid for it, so it should be theirs no matter what.

I've always believed that a guild is made what it is by the collective efforts of its members. When you start recruiting people to the guild, it's not simply you = guild anymore, but rather a combination of various people and their actions together which define the guild.

panda10119 · Aug 18, 2007, 09:12 AM // 09:12

Thats wrong i'm just angry from reading this! They have no right to take that from you! you have put effort in the guild and bought a guild hall to be given to someone else What about the money what about the effort that kinda stuff makes people quit Guild Wars has a serios issue to do with and i think they should dael with it it's a bit like black mail in a way if you don't play for xx days we will Demote you THATS WRONG!

Isileth · Aug 18, 2007, 04:34 PM // 16:34

You have to remember what a guild is. Its not an item that you buy to show wealth, skill or power. You buy the guild not for yourself, but for every player in the guild.

If you never want to risk losing something you buy then dont buy a guild.

A guild is not something you own, it belongs to every player in the guild. Just because you purchased it doesnt mean it belongs to you, the guild leader just has more control over the guild not ownership.

Anyone who is thinking its fine to screw over all those other players in your guild is really quite selfish.

Phantomice · Aug 18, 2007, 06:40 PM // 18:40

well there is a big difference in trusting someone with your guild then trusting someone with your account. Trusting someone with your account is just plain idiotic and mental. There is only one person i trust with my account and that is my wife. As for my guild Yes I would trust a couple of my officers. but You know its just a game. It can always be gotten again. And yes i do have a full hall and I know how much it costs.

Xanatos_De_Creon · Aug 20, 2007, 11:18 AM // 11:18

Logic says when you create a guild you are going to invite your friends first, then start recruiting random people. So the guild will get passed onto the first active friend is said case. Secondly 'stuff' happens where people go offline and it is wrong to expect a whole guild to rebuild because you felt like playing your new XBox game instead of GW or because you could not pay the cable bill, your mom caught you doing what ever in appropriate thing for a teenager and grounded you from the net for 6mths.. what ever.. it happens and it shouldn't be put onto 30 other people. If they stuck around for 2 months with out a leader they deserve the guild.

Secondly yes, I do know cost to fully stock a guild hall, cape and all, it's right in the ball park of 1bil. If you're not a farmer that is quite a bit of money, thus why some responsibility comes with being a guild leader. Most guilds have an inactive policy of one month or less with out notice.. the guild leader should be no different.

Also major factor in doing this is for those people who make the "1 man guild" then stop playing after two months because it is 'boring' (you know who I'm talking about). These same guys eat up the good guild names. Eliminating these inactive guilds puts the name back into the pool. I wish there was a way they could do that for character names.

imagine how many inactive accounts there are out there.

Xanatos_De_Creon · Aug 20, 2007, 11:33 AM // 11:33

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Originally Posted by Prince Telemakhos

tbh, u should not trust anyone in guild wars. there is one experience in ym guild where the main officer of the guild was trusted by their close friend with their account for a week's period of time or close to it. when that person came back on he expected it to be perfectly the same as the officer (and good friend) told him it would be. but he ended up missing all his ectos and the officer refused to return them b/c the officer "needed" them more than he did. thats my experience where i learned never trust somebody online.

First off, duh! you don't give your password out and have somebody sit on your account... it is a totally different thing giving the guild to an officer if you can't be online for two months or longer.

sorry.. couldn't pass it up.

Age · Aug 20, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35

The only way to assure your position as leader stays of that is to help one of your officers set up a guild and to send everyone over to that guild.This would be a temporally guild untill you get back on or if you are going to go through financial problems,personal and have to cut your internet off for awhile.

Then you will be the sole persons in your guild don't stay off to long as the game get older it gets harder to recruit.

Solas · Aug 20, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14

a guild is like a country, everyoen owns it but only a few take charge.

if the leader jsut left for 2+ months without any 2nd in ccomand then its not a great or even good guild.

your options are:
A) promote a 2nd in comand

2) kick em all becasue you do not trust em...therer all spies

also the fact about a fully equiped GH, in a good guild they would want to contribute to it, not let the leader pay for all.

the GL worked hard but so did the memebers and officers,its theres jsut as much as yours, its jsut in your name. that all

Scarlet The Healer · Aug 22, 2007, 05:10 AM // 05:10

I find that hard to beleive. My friend gave me his guild wars account. Now mind you he and the people in the guild havent played in TWO years. I keept asking my buddy my buddy to send me the invite, but he told me he hasnt played in or even looked at his acct for two and neither has the other memebrs. Needless to say he found his password and gave me the account. When I logged on he was still the guild leader and he was the first one out of his group that bought an played the game? So is this inactive for 60 day fairly new?

Now I am the guild leader and the guild is acitve and growing since I have taken it over about six months now.

Cats · Aug 23, 2007, 04:51 AM // 04:51

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Originally Posted by populationcontrol

would you give one of ur officers (whom you dont know personally) 300k lets say wait a week and ask for it back? i rest my case

Pssh officers? I would give 300k to any member for a month and know for sure I'd get it back. FYI there are 96 members in my guild. Having trust within a guild speaks greatly about the recruitment methods/selection of members.

I personally feel that if a leader isn't online within 60 days, he doesn't deserve to be one. It's good that Anet has such a system (I wondered about it at some point). There're too many dead guilds with 6year-olds as leaders drifting about out there because the kid decided Maplestory is more fun. Being such, a guild is literally dead locked because the man with the 'power' is gone forever, and nobody can do anything about it. If there's a 60day cap, maybe a guild can still be saved, and Anet won't have to delete entire guilds that do nothing but take up space in the database.

spellsword · Aug 26, 2007, 08:28 AM // 08:28

They should at least refund the money the owner paid for the hall, cape and upgrades. Otherwise its just not fair towards him/her.

Isileth · Aug 26, 2007, 08:39 AM // 08:39

That assumes the guild leader paid for it all Spellword. And again as stated before the Guild Leader doesnt have full ownership over it anyway, why should he get his money back? It belongs to the guild. Which belongs to everyone in it.

Alex Morningstar · Sep 22, 2007, 10:01 PM // 22:01

It isn't like you cannot get around being demoted. Two straight months of inactivity is easily avoided by logging into your guild hall and back out.

If you don't log in for 2 months, obviously you don't care about your guild. If you don't care, then don't spend ingame money making one that you're just going to let sit there and waste away.

populationcontrol · Sep 23, 2007, 07:42 AM // 07:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by spellsword

If someone makes a guild, they can run it however they want. If they want to leave for two months, its their right to do so. If players are bothered by an inactive leader, they can leave. Taking someone’s guild away is wrong, they paid for it, so it should be theirs no matter what.

yeah i agree with this, i also would like to point out that nobody i deal with knows about this feature.

populationcontrol · Sep 23, 2007, 07:44 AM // 07:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cats

Pssh officers? I would give 300k to any member for a month and know for sure I'd get it back.

i dare you to make that experiment with an unknown person u promoted to officer because he was either nice or good at pvp. people you know personally doesnt count.

Isileth · Sep 23, 2007, 08:08 AM // 08:08

The problem right there is that you shouldnt be promoting people just because they are nice or good at the game. Those positions are for people you can trust.

Most people wont promote for those reasons, hence the reason this system is handy. Because Most guilds will have officers they trust.

populationcontrol · Sep 23, 2007, 08:18 AM // 08:18

you cant trust peple you "meet" on the internet with ur money. its like you dont even lend your credit card (just example with more money) to people you trust.

Aug 20, 2007, 11:18 AM // 11:18	#28
Xanatos_De_Creon Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Missouri Guild: Cursed Kitty Cats [CKC] Profession: Rt/	Logic says when you create a guild you are going to invite your friends first, then start recruiting random people. So the guild will get passed onto the first active friend is said case. Secondly 'stuff' happens where people go offline and it is wrong to expect a whole guild to rebuild because you felt like playing your new XBox game instead of GW or because you could not pay the cable bill, your mom caught you doing what ever in appropriate thing for a teenager and grounded you from the net for 6mths.. what ever.. it happens and it shouldn't be put onto 30 other people. If they stuck around for 2 months with out a leader they deserve the guild. Secondly yes, I do know cost to fully stock a guild hall, cape and all, it's right in the ball park of 1bil. If you're not a farmer that is quite a bit of money, thus why some responsibility comes with being a guild leader. Most guilds have an inactive policy of one month or less with out notice.. the guild leader should be no different. Also major factor in doing this is for those people who make the "1 man guild" then stop playing after two months because it is 'boring' (you know who I'm talking about). These same guys eat up the good guild names. Eliminating these inactive guilds puts the name back into the pool. I wish there was a way they could do that for character names. imagine how many inactive accounts there are out there. Last edited by Xanatos_De_Creon; Aug 20, 2007 at 11:23 AM // 11:23..

Aug 08, 2007, 09:40 AM // 09:40	#21
ichigo_panty Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Exiled And Forsaken[EnF]	Not unless you have his/her address,phone number, picture. You can hunt him/her down if something happen.

Aug 11, 2007, 09:42 AM // 09:42	#22
spellsword Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006	If someone makes a guild, they can run it however they want. If they want to leave for two months, its their right to do so. If players are bothered by an inactive leader, they can leave. Taking someone???s guild away is wrong, they paid for it, so it should be theirs no matter what.

Aug 15, 2007, 08:27 AM // 08:27	#23
troll Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: The Transparent [tt]	When I first started GW I joined a guild, but when I couldn't get out of pre-searing I quit for a while. When I came back I was the leader of a guild with a hall and everything (back then sigils cost like 60-70k). That was pretty cool I thought.

Aug 18, 2007, 09:12 AM // 09:12	#25
panda10119 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: Element of the Flame Profession: E/D	Thats wrong i'm just angry from reading this! They have no right to take that from you! you have put effort in the guild and bought a guild hall to be given to someone else What about the money what about the effort that kinda stuff makes people quit Guild Wars has a serios issue to do with and i think they should dael with it it's a bit like black mail in a way if you don't play for xx days we will Demote you THATS WRONG!

Aug 18, 2007, 04:34 PM // 16:34	#26
Isileth Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: R/W	You have to remember what a guild is. Its not an item that you buy to show wealth, skill or power. You buy the guild not for yourself, but for every player in the guild. If you never want to risk losing something you buy then dont buy a guild. A guild is not something you own, it belongs to every player in the guild. Just because you purchased it doesnt mean it belongs to you, the guild leader just has more control over the guild not ownership. Anyone who is thinking its fine to screw over all those other players in your guild is really quite selfish.

Aug 18, 2007, 06:40 PM // 18:40	#27
Phantomice Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Just About Gaming Profession: W/Mo	well there is a big difference in trusting someone with your guild then trusting someone with your account. Trusting someone with your account is just plain idiotic and mental. There is only one person i trust with my account and that is my wife. As for my guild Yes I would trust a couple of my officers. but You know its just a game. It can always be gotten again. And yes i do have a full hall and I know how much it costs.

Aug 20, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35	#30
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	The only way to assure your position as leader stays of that is to help one of your officers set up a guild and to send everyone over to that guild.This would be a temporally guild untill you get back on or if you are going to go through financial problems,personal and have to cut your internet off for awhile. Then you will be the sole persons in your guild don't stay off to long as the game get older it gets harder to recruit.

Aug 20, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14	#31
Solas Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ireland Guild: Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2 Profession: E/	a guild is like a country, everyoen owns it but only a few take charge. if the leader jsut left for 2+ months without any 2nd in ccomand then its not a great or even good guild. your options are: A) promote a 2nd in comand 2) kick em all becasue you do not trust em...therer all spies also the fact about a fully equiped GH, in a good guild they would want to contribute to it, not let the leader pay for all. the GL worked hard but so did the memebers and officers,its theres jsut as much as yours, its jsut in your name. that all

Aug 22, 2007, 05:10 AM // 05:10	#32
Scarlet The Healer Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ohio Guild: Elements Of Lore- Guild Leader Profession: Mo/E	I find that hard to beleive. My friend gave me his guild wars account. Now mind you he and the people in the guild havent played in TWO years. I keept asking my buddy my buddy to send me the invite, but he told me he hasnt played in or even looked at his acct for two and neither has the other memebrs. Needless to say he found his password and gave me the account. When I logged on he was still the guild leader and he was the first one out of his group that bought an played the game? So is this inactive for 60 day fairly new? Now I am the guild leader and the guild is acitve and growing since I have taken it over about six months now.

Aug 26, 2007, 08:28 AM // 08:28	#34
spellsword Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006	They should at least refund the money the owner paid for the hall, cape and upgrades. Otherwise its just not fair towards him/her.

Aug 26, 2007, 08:39 AM // 08:39	#35
Isileth Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: R/W	That assumes the guild leader paid for it all Spellword. And again as stated before the Guild Leader doesnt have full ownership over it anyway, why should he get his money back? It belongs to the guild. Which belongs to everyone in it.

Sep 22, 2007, 10:01 PM // 22:01	#36
Alex Morningstar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Team Asshat [Hat] leader - [GR] Alliance Profession: Mo/	It isn't like you cannot get around being demoted. Two straight months of inactivity is easily avoided by logging into your guild hall and back out. If you don't log in for 2 months, obviously you don't care about your guild. If you don't care, then don't spend ingame money making one that you're just going to let sit there and waste away.

Sep 23, 2007, 08:08 AM // 08:08	#39
Isileth Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: R/W	The problem right there is that you shouldnt be promoting people just because they are nice or good at the game. Those positions are for people you can trust. Most people wont promote for those reasons, hence the reason this system is handy. Because Most guilds will have officers they trust.

Sep 23, 2007, 08:18 AM // 08:18	#40
populationcontrol Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2007 Guild: USSR Profession: D/	you cant trust peple you "meet" on the internet with ur money. its like you dont even lend your credit card (just example with more money) to people you trust.